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"We're the last people our kids want to be with. I think they're conditioning us for that empty nest syndrome, but we're not relishing that at all. We don't know what we're going to do. I got to get him some more hobbies. I threaten them that I'm going to buy an apartment near their campus and visit and sit in their classes, but that's an idle threat. Barack and I take great joy in embarrassing our children. We threaten them. Sometimes when you see me whispering to them in a crowd I'm saying, 'Sit up or I'm going to embarrass you. I'm going to start dancing!' And they're like, 'No, mom. Please don't. Stop!' But we get that. Our kids are as humiliated by us as the next. They take it in good stride. They put up with us. I'm going to be happy to see them thriving on campus work study jobs, traveling and having all these wonderful independent experiences that are going to make them phenomenal people."

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